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File name File size Bitrate Play time
Bambi Slaughter.mp3 3534625 128 03:40
Bambi Slaughter1.mp3 1115300 192 00:46
Bambi Slaughter2.mp3 3414285 128 03:33
Bambi Slaughter3.mp3 5123319 192 03:33
Buffy's Pregnant ©.mp3 4199839 192 02:54
Buffy's Pregnant.mp3 4199808 192 02:54
Buffy's Pregnant1.mp3 1075803 192 00:44
Downer.mp3 1788006 192 01:14
Laminated Effect.mp3 2330903 128 02:25
Laminated Effect1 [made not born].mp3 532874 192 00:22
Laminated Effect2 [made not born].mp3 3170404 192 02:12
Laminated Effect3 [made not born].mp3 3299554 192 02:17
Laminated Effect4 [made not born].mp3 2198859 128 02:17
Laminated Effect5 [made not born].mp3 4723123 320 01:58
Sound Of Dentage.mp3 3487814 128 03:37
Sound Of Dentage1.mp3 1109658 192 00:46
Sound Of Dentage2.mp3 3355770 128 03:29
Sound Of Dentage3.mp3 5034921 192 03:29
Spank Thru.mp3 7206611 256 03:45
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #1 Brown Towel - Shoulda Bin Dead [Unknown song 1(Accusations)].mp3 371886 96 00:30
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #1 Brown Towel - Shoulda Bin Dead [Unknown song 1(Accusations)]1.mp3 736002 192 00:30
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #1.mp3 735971 192 00:30
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #2 [Vaseline] [Class of '86] [BloggerSlag] [Punk Rocker].mp3 1897093 192 01:18
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #2 [Vaseline] [Class of '86] [BloggerSlag] [Punk Rocker]1.mp3 2588606 192 01:47
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #2 [Vaseline] [Class of '86] [BloggerSlag] [Punk Rocker]2.mp3 670801 192 00:27
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #2.mp3 2588575 192 01:47
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #3 1.mp3 1902108 192 01:19
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #3.mp3 1902108 192 01:19
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #4 [Love My Wife] [Anorexorcist].mp3 1905102 192 01:19
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #4 [Love My Wife] [Anorexorcist]1.mp3 4232440 192 02:56
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #4 [Love My Wife] [Anorexorcist]2.mp3 4231186 192 02:56
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #4.mp3 4232409 192 02:56
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #5 Brown Towel - Vaseline [Unknown song 5 (Vaseline)].mp3 964129 96 01:19
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #5.mp3 964129 96 01:19
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #6 [control] [unknown 3].mp3 1284574 192 00:53
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #6.mp3 1284543 192 00:53
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #7 [Blathers Log] [BoatAkk].mp3 3387953 192 02:21
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #7 Blathers Log.mp3 1092103 192 00:45
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #7.mp3 3387922 192 02:21
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #8 [Anorexorcist].mp3 1989880 192 01:22
Unknown Song (from the Fecal Matter demo) #8.mp3 1989849 192 01:22

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Faux Fecal Matter Demos

CIRCULATED FILE NAME(S): Various
TRACK LENGTH(S): Speeds of recordings vary, so track lengths differ

ORIGINAL PLACE OF CIRCULATION: Trading circles

CIRCULATING QUALITY: 56KB/sec & 128KB/sec

DATE OF CIRCULATION: Since 1997

DEVICES USED: Radio Shack 2 channel (4-track mixer) - only 2 channels used

QUALITY OF RECORDING: Poor

RESEMBLANCE TO NIRVANA: Poor

RESEMBLANCE TO KURT'S VOICE: Poor

AUTHENTICITY: Recording claimed

INFORMATION: Without a doubt this is the most infamous fake in the history of NIRVANA bootleg trading. It fooled even the most hardcore NIRVANA fans and continues to haunt the trading scene.

The fake demo was traded to Rob Holmes by William Clarke. At the time Rob Holmes was head of the almost equally infamous 'Fecal Matter Quest', a band of collectors who set themselves the task of tracking down this most sort after item. Holmes genuinely believed that what he got from William Clarke was the real deal and there was much rejoicing in the NIRVANA community that this item had been found at last. Accordingly the recording spread like wildfire amongst collectors. Some people at the time, however, had their doubts as to its authenticity: either believing it was in fact a genuine earlier demo (the Organised Confusion demo - because the fake demo lacked any drums) or a complete fake. Fierce debates quickly ensued. It was finally proven to be a fake in 1998 when the hoaxer, William Clarke owned up to his crime. This was only doubly confirmed in 2000 when a trader tracked down the real Fecal Matter demo. Note: the real demo has not subsequently been circulated.

As Frank Morris observed the first clue that this item was a fake, (even before William Clarke came forward and a copy of the real demo was found) is that the recording is completely different from almost all credible information gathered about the real Fecal Matter demo. For example, the book 'Come As You Are' (by Michael Azerrad) states that Dale Crover did in fact play drums on the real Fecal Matter demo, whereas the fake recording does not have any. This led some people to erroneously believe the fake demo was in fact a genuine copy of an earlier demo by Cobain called Organised Confusion. Another reason for proving this item was a fake was that is was not recorded on a 4-Track, which was the source on which the original Fecal Matter demo was known to have been recorded (and again confirmed in 2000). The final blow came when William Clarke came forward in 1998 and admitted these recordings to be fakes. To prove it he posted two sets of clips. The above 'Buffy's Pregnant' (with vocals), and a version of the same 'song' with the vocals removed. By coming forward the hoaxer could also lay to rest the erroneous belief that the fake Fecal Matter was really a genuine copy of the earlier Cobain demo (the Organised Confusion demo). It must also be noted that at the beginning of some of the songs the hoaxer (William Clarke) states "This is not Kurt Cobain".

UPDATE - In early 2005, William Clarke kindly provided all known information on his Nirvana related recordings (covers/fakes):-
1996 Fake Fecal Matter Demo [#1]


Sound of Dentage (Size: 451KB) - 1.13, 1.14, 1.11
Bambi Slaughter (Size: 452KB) - 1.42, 1.45, 1.43
Laminated Effect - 1.55, 1.57 (Different song), 2.05 (White Lace & Strange)
Buffy's Pregnant (Size: 453KB) - 2.26, 2.27, 2.25
Spank Thru (Size: 452KB) - 3.23, 3.28, 3.08
Downer (Instrumental) (Size: 451KB) - 1.20, 1.28, 1.15
Suicide Samurai (Size: 449KB) - 2.05, 1.36, 1.50
This is the demo that has circulated most frequently. 'Sound of Dentage' and 'Laminated Effect' are own compositions. 'Bambi Slaughter' is a cover of a NIRVANA song, as found on the 1987-1988 home demos. Buffy's Pregnant features lyrics probably from the real 'Buffy's Pregnant' on the real Fecal Matter demo.
Three different recordings under the title of 'Laminated Effect' have been circulating with this Fake Fecal Matter Demo [#1]:-

William Clarke version (Size: 448KB)
The version originally featured on this page as a download, artist unknown (Size: 448KB)
A very bad quality version of the pre-NIRVANA recording of White Lace & Strange (Size: 225KB), from the KAOS demo.

'Spank Thru' and 'Downer' are covers of the NIRVANA songs, and 'Suicide Samurai' is a cover of the NIRVANA song 'Anorexorcist'.
1997 Fake Fecal Matter Demo [#2]


Spank Thru (Size: 451KB) - 2.56
Bambi Slaughter (Size: 450KB) - 3.01
Downer (Instrumental) (Size: 452KB) - 1.49
Vendettagainst (Size: 451KB) - 3.48
Suicide Samurai (Size: 451KB) - 4.56
Sound of Dentage (Size: 450KB) - 3.58
Laminated Effect (Size: 444KB) - 4.05
This demo has circulated less frequently than #1. 'Spank Thru', 'Bambi Slaughter' and 'Downer' are NIRVANA covers. Vendettagainst is an own composition, and should not be confused with the actual NIRVANA song 'Help Me I'm Hungry (Vendetagainst)'. 'Suicide Samurai', 'Sound of Dentage' and 'Laminated Effect' are own compositions, and should not be confused with any NIRVANA song titles, or songs with the same song titles from the Fake Fecal Matter Demo [#1].

For more information on how these recordings were created, please click here.

LN VERDICT: Proven fake


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